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Mipha
Jun 6, 2020 19:06:17 GMT -5
Post by Groot Furry Kielbasa on Jun 6, 2020 19:06:17 GMT -5
Hi everyone! Mipha here.
I know there will be some pushback on me being a finalist. I'm a redemption player who had to play a bit dirty during merge to reach this point. Plus I'm up against Urbosa who was a massive power player and Revali who had the UTR game on lock. Still, I hope that my speech can show you a bit on what I did to reach this point and why I'm worthy of being the winner of Survivor PCW.
I'm going to win these challenges now and get back into the game. I was so indifferent about all of this but for them to pull that move is crazy. Sorry everyone here, I respect you all and want everyone to have a fair shot but Mipha has a mission now.
The above quote was taken from when I was on redemption. I'll explain it's relevance in just a moment but I figured some context might be helpful. I'm going to split my game into two different parts with the first being Pre-Redemption and the second being Back to Merge. I will also make sure to touch on a little about my experience on Redemption. This is so strange to me because normally players explain their pre-merge and merge but my story is obviously different then that normality.
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Pre - Redemption
Going into this game, I decided I wanted to take it slow and just play to my social strengths. I expected I would be a bit rusty and wanted to be slow and methodical about my approach. I made great friendships with everyone on Wisdom especially Epona, I connected with an immediate F3 in Riju and Patricia, and I made solid first impressions during the Fake 15 including a secret alliance with Oaki. I didn't try to make aggressive plays or stand out too much but I quickly realized that this style of play wasn't going to work. I won an idol round 1 and it wasn't difficult to determine that this game will have lots of items in it just from that experience so being a socially likable meant being an idol target.
I messed up and kept trying to play the nice girl who didn't want to make waves but it was this strategy that I feel ultimately got me eliminated. Things certainly could have been different if the people I were getting close with managed to stay in the game, but Riju/Patty who I made a pact with on Zora were either eliminated or not well liked. Oaki/Pelison were also two people I expected to reunite with but didn't get the chance. By the time Fake Merge happened, I was stuck with fresh allies who likely didn't see me as valuable with Patty being the only one I could trust undoubtedly.
TL'DR
Early game Mipha played the best she could to make friends for Merge but was unfortunately left with no close allies.
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Redemption
I should obviously touch on this as it's a major part of my story. I've never been a redemption player and getting eliminated was almost peaceful. I had accepted that this game wasn't pulling it's punches and I was a casualty of the items and twists. Once I realized that Patty was blindsided into idoling me out, I was frustrated. The one safety net I had was used against me and it didn't even seem intentional...
Something happened to me on redemption that sparked me to change my playstyle and win this game. It's difficult to explain... I had a new drive and motivation. Perhaps it was the apathy that I saw from most people on redemption or maybe it was how nearly everyone on merge was willing to blindside me and leave me in the dirt. Whatever the reason, I realized that it wasn't that unrealistic to win redemption and made sure everyone in that thread knew I was ready for round 2. I had a plan, I had a mission, and I was coming back with vengeance. All my allies were on the jury anyways, why not?
Riju gave me an idol. Patty gave me an FTC advantage. Horse shared his support of me getting back in the game. I saw what was motivating the redemption players and came up with a plan of my own...
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Back to Merge
This Mipha was altogether different. I completely switched up my style and decided it was time to play fast and loose. I'm sure I made waves and I know some people weren't exactly happy with me but I was also difficult to get rid of. My biggest advantage wasn't in items, but in knowledge. I had a gameplan to take out Sidon/Epona/Kass as those were the three names that redemption seemed to talk the most about. I knew that could fester into them being seen as automatic winners if they were to just reach FTC.
I was a hurricane and people made sure to let me know it wasn't appreciated. That I was "blowing up my game." But the issue I had with those statements were two part.
1.) I wasn't back to make friends anymore.
2.) I was still in the game, they were leaving.
I spread some rumors and leaked some PMs to the point that no one alive really truly trusted me. I ended up having to salvage relationships but it didn't matter, people were starting to draw lines and the damage had been done. Sure, my reputation was tarnished but it wasn't difficult to convince Oven/Revali/Urbosa to target Kass or Kohga/Revali/Sidon that Epona needed to go.
I had focused on spreading information and groveling back to the people I hurt so that I wouldn't get kicked. I even managed to find some truly admirable friendships out of it with Kohga and Oven. While Sidon and I went back and forth, I know 100% I wouldn't be here if I had handled our relationship any differently. I spread chaos but only just enough to cause problems while not getting eliminated for it.
My focus was eliminating targets and staying alive. I didn't need people to respect me or like me anymore and I was ok swapping teams to blindside Kass or allying with Kohga/Revali to take out Sidon/Epona. These fulfilled my agenda and kept me in the game.
I played with the assumption that if I showed my fellow redemption jury members that I didn't give up and took out the threats, they would consider me worthy of winning the game and I definitely showed my ability to represent Power/Wisdom/Courage.
But for the rest of you, here is just a list of accomplishments I managed this game:
- Won Wisdom Idol (Power)
- Final 3 with Team Zora (Wisdom)
- Won Redemption (Power)
- Was given Spirit Idol and FTC advantage (Courage)
- Manipulated game with redemption knowledge (Wisdom)
- Allied Sidon to help keep me safe from my targets (Courage)
- Allied Oaki/Oven as redemption buddies (Courage)
- Blindsided Kass (Wisdom)
- Humbled myself to Kohga for an alliance (Courage)
- Knew exactly how many idols were in play and narrowed down by F8 who had what (Power)
- Lied about the F4 challenge to have people prioritize my targets and not Urbosa (Wisdom)
I played... a dirty game during the Merge and this complete swap of my gameplay I hope shows that I adapted and persisted above and beyond what my competitors did. In the end, none of them really seemed to consider me a threat and I relished that. I encouraged the thinking of me being a redemption player means I stood no chance and when Kass told me, "Nobody trusts me." and "I'll be dragged to FTC." I didn't mind that because I knew I likely had a fair bit of support on the Jury already. Besides... the main example he used of someone not trusting me was Kohga yet I managed to turn that around just a couple rounds later.
Point being... yeah, I played dirty but I wasn't inhuman. I made relationships with people and it was the relationships I made before getting eliminated that kept me motivated when I got back in. I had so many people between Oven/Oaki/Patricia/Riju/Pelison/Hunnie/Link... even Kohga now, that I am fighting to prove they should believe in me and what I've accomplished because you can guarantee that my path here was much harder then anyone else's.
TL'DR
I played two very different games and got here through persistence and adaptation all while fulfilling my own agenda.
Thanks for reading, Sorry if it was too long... and uhh... Bye!
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Mipha
Jun 6, 2020 19:24:40 GMT -5
Post by Prince Sidon on Jun 6, 2020 19:24:40 GMT -5
Question 1: Since you got voted out and lost the game the first time, how would you say your early game before you were voted out contributed to your game in a way that should make people vote for you?
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Jun 6, 2020 19:48:04 GMT -5
Post by Oaki on Jun 6, 2020 19:48:04 GMT -5
I've got some work to do, so I'll give you a more in-depth question later. But I'm not gonna lie I'm pretty excited to see you get to this point!
But my first question to help break the ice a little bit:
If your game were a motorcycle, what sort of motorcycle would it be and why?
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Jun 6, 2020 19:48:40 GMT -5
Post by Mipha on Jun 6, 2020 19:48:40 GMT -5
Question 1: Since you got voted out and lost the game the first time, how would you say your early game before you were voted out contributed to your game in a way that should make people vote for you? First off, I just wanted to state that I haven't lost the game nor did I lose. If that were the case, I wouldn't still be here so implying that I lost feels like you are implying I cheated the system or something. As for your question: I approached the game as everyone's friend and made several alliances and friendships plus doing well in challenges likely put a target on me as someone to be wary of. I started feeling this first when on Heart Container and people weren't feeling very invested in our relationship. I pushed hard to make friends and get conversations going but the short responses showed me that people were considering me as a vote. So it seemed obvious to me that my play was labeling me a target that people wanted out. My early game got me alliances with Patty/Riju/Oaki and strong bonds with Pelison/Hunnie/Link which hopefully contributes to them voting for me. |
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Jun 6, 2020 19:50:19 GMT -5
Post by Mipha on Jun 6, 2020 19:50:19 GMT -5
I've got some work to do, so I'll give you a more in-depth question later. But I'm not gonna lie I'm pretty excited to see you get to this point! But my first question to help break the ice a little bit: If your game were a motorcycle, what sort of motorcycle would it be and why? Question for your question that you don't need to answer... can the motorcycle fly? I'm feeling the need to get out of here on the double lol. Thanks and I honestly don't care which bike I get so long as it has that sexy Link on it. You know the one... it's in my torchwalk  |
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Jun 6, 2020 19:54:35 GMT -5
Post by Master Kohga on Jun 6, 2020 19:54:35 GMT -5
So, I'm not really offended by your original elimination because you didn't receive the majority of votes. Just to get that out of the way.
I feel like I met two different Miphas in this game. I met a warm person with a lot of genuine emotion and love; I also met a person who, while this may be dramatic on my part, I believe I once suggested might be a compulsive liar who would jump straight to emotional manipulation when things didn't go her way. Which, if either, of these people is the real one? If I believe the second one played Survivor poorly by way of becoming comically untrustworthy, what factors mitigate that, or what parts of it were actually good strategy that I'm not understanding?
I realize that might be more than one question.
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Jun 6, 2020 20:00:53 GMT -5
Post by Mipha on Jun 6, 2020 20:00:53 GMT -5
So, I'm not really offended by your original elimination because you didn't receive the majority of votes. Just to get that out of the way. I feel like I met two different Miphas in this game. I met a warm person with a lot of genuine emotion and love; I also met a person who, while this may be dramatic on my part, I believe I once suggested might be a compulsive liar who would jump straight to emotional manipulation when things didn't go her way. Which, if either, of these people is the real one? If I believe the second one played Survivor poorly by way of becoming comically untrustworthy, what factors mitigate that, or what parts of it were actually good strategy that I'm not understanding? I realize that might be more than one question. This is fair and you saw a manipulative side of me that most did not actually see. In my speech, I address that there are two sides of my gameplay but both are me. If I had to pick one that I prefer, I definitely lean towards wanting to develop connections and play the nice game however it wasn't that game that got me here. It was making a ruckus and causing problems that got me farther while being sweet to the people that I trusted. For the longest time, I didn't trust you and my attempt to find some common ground came off as poor. The real Mipha is what you saw when I humbled myself to you for an alliance. I like breaking down barriers and playing a real game, no bars between people and we eventually got there (at least one my end). Perhaps me backstabbing Kass helped that with us but I couldn't have made that move without being my more manipulative self. So long answer short, both are me but I tend to lean being nice hence why I'm a bad liar lol. |
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Jun 6, 2020 22:19:27 GMT -5
Post by Pelison on Jun 6, 2020 22:19:27 GMT -5
Hi Mipha, congrats on making it to the end!
My first question is this: is this the F3 you were hoping for? Whose eliminations down the stretch did you think were most important to securing your spot, or do you think you were bound to be sitting here sort of regardless of how things played out?
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Jun 6, 2020 23:44:08 GMT -5
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Post by Epona on Jun 6, 2020 23:44:08 GMT -5
Does this mod-required question feel better or worse than if I hadn't asked you a question at all?
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Jun 6, 2020 23:51:50 GMT -5
Post by Mipha on Jun 6, 2020 23:51:50 GMT -5
Does this mod-required question feel better or worse than if I hadn't asked you a question at all? About the same. Does it help you at all? Or we can switch it up and I just ask you questions if you like. Why are you upset with me? |
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Jun 7, 2020 0:09:18 GMT -5
Post by Mipha on Jun 7, 2020 0:09:18 GMT -5
Hi Mipha, congrats on making it to the end! My first question is this: is this the F3 you were hoping for? Whose eliminations down the stretch did you think were most important to securing your spot, or do you think you were bound to be sitting here sort of regardless of how things played out? Thank you!!! I can't believe I actually made it. No not at all... the game is a bit difficult to navigate in terms of who you want to be in a final 3 with. Between twists and items and Urbosa hogging all the immunity, there was no easy way to get the perfect Final 3. My first pick was Patty/Riju which is no big surprise. After that I hoped for as many redemption players as possible. Towards the late game, I was content going against Kohga/Revali hoping that the final 4 challenge would be rubee related but again... kind of hard to plan around the twists this game. The eliminations I needed to happen where Kass/Epona as neither of them I trusted to take me to the end. They had their own plans and are obviously not happy that I wasn't agreeable to them. I don't include Sidon in that list because while I do think he was a threat to win, I also believe he would have taken me to FTC and I had the option to stick with him although I imagine a similar thing would happen in F4 where Urbosa just wins and Revali and I are forced to cut the stronger player. I certainly had to work hard to get here. |
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Jun 7, 2020 0:15:40 GMT -5
Post by Prince Sidon on Jun 7, 2020 0:15:40 GMT -5
Question 1: Since you got voted out and lost the game the first time, how would you say your early game before you were voted out contributed to your game in a way that should make people vote for you? First off, I just wanted to state that I haven't lost the game nor did I lose. If that were the case, I wouldn't still be here so implying that I lost feels like you are implying I cheated the system or something. As for your question: I approached the game as everyone's friend and made several alliances and friendships plus doing well in challenges likely put a target on me as someone to be wary of. I started feeling this first when on Heart Container and people weren't feeling very invested in our relationship. I pushed hard to make friends and get conversations going but the short responses showed me that people were considering me as a vote. So it seemed obvious to me that my play was labeling me a target that people wanted out. My early game got me alliances with Patty/Riju/Oaki and strong bonds with Pelison/Hunnie/Link which hopefully contributes to them voting for me. Question 2: You arguably only survived your return round because I went out on a limb to save you, putting my own game on the line to do so. I even got Kass super on board. So the fact that you then stabbed me only works out in one way -- the one where you get to the end with the right people. From where I stand, you aren't sitting there with the right people. Urbosa is still here, and Revali at least survived without being voted out. So my question is... What exactly was it about Kohga's game that made him a better candidate to sit against at the end, since I've read the entire Jury threads, and there was a shitload of anger towards me, with nothing towards Kohga. From where I sit, Kohga and I played similar games -- except that Kohga had stronger connections. And given that people like Oven and Patty were heated at me, and several people mentioned me as being a liar and manipulator, most of the jury seemed to respect Kohga's game over mine. Given that your whole thrust of backstabbing me was that you couldn't beat me... I have to assume there are people you thought you COULD beat. Why did backstabbing the person that kept you in the game who had jury heat help your game? What about these other fucksticks you're sitting beside makes you more likely to win? Jury note: I would've beaten Urbosa at the jigsaw. |
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Post by Mipha on Jun 7, 2020 0:48:41 GMT -5
@sidon -
I realize what I did sucks and you have every right to hate me for it. I didn't become your ally and friend with the intention of "how do I screw you over." I did it because I liked you and we bonded.
Once I got back from Redemption, I had to reevaluate our relationship and you busted your ass to show you were on my side. I even returned the favor as best I could making sure Kass was the blindside and not you. I wasn't going to help them if it wasn't him.
I worked with the information I knew. Hell, Magda even said I made you sound like a badass and you frankly were.
But I didn't want to go to FTC with you and it seems thats your focus right now. You want to know why?
Because you sucked the life out of me Sidon. Kohga knows and understands this. We talked for so long about how every decision "we" made was really just you. How people were viewing me as your goat and that "oh Sidon is protecting Mipha." I decided to leave you behind because I didn't want to be guilt tripped til the end of the game as your goat and wanted to find relationships that didn't make me feel like absolute dog shit if I didn't obey. How is me sitting next to you at FTC good for me when everyone would know that you just carried me there? Because while people hate you, imagine what they would think of the person who followed him blindly.
I'd rather face Urbosa. I mean, I'd rather face Urbosa then Epona or Kass too but that's just my preconception of the game. See how we both have opinions but your not just inherently wrong for differing from mine? That kind of relationship is top notch and what I want, even if it costs me the game in your eyes.
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Jun 7, 2020 1:04:56 GMT -5
Post by Prince Sidon on Jun 7, 2020 1:04:56 GMT -5
I'm not entirely sure how I was guilt-tripping you ever, other than, you know, you choosing to backstab Kass and I when we tried to keep you in. Essentially, yes, I thought you stabbing us when we took a chance was dark. And you can claim it's that you "kept it on Kass and not me", but you also didn't have to vote for either of us? You're framing it as a false dichotomy when... you could've just voted Revali.
This is what you said your priorities were. Meanwhile, I've heard that while I trusted you in all this, you were hearing from Oven he wasn't on board with our F3, you didn't make Revali feel confident with me, Urbosa never got off my ass, and you didn't keep the target off of Kohga. I sent you full PMs of what I was saying to other people so you knew where I was at. I didn't guilt trip you. I treated you as a partner -- even trusting you again after you lied to me and blindsided Kass. I gave you back the idol you gave me. And yet, here we are, where Urbosa forced us both to play our idols in the same round, because you trusted her and I didn't.
I trusted you up until Kohga told me you were voting me out.
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Jun 7, 2020 1:05:38 GMT -5
Post by Prince Sidon on Jun 7, 2020 1:05:38 GMT -5
Literally one time the entire game I "guilt tripped" you because you voted out Kass. That's it. Didn't do it the rest of the time. Yet every PM I sent you was apparently guilt tripping. Grow up.
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