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Post by Royal White Horse on Jun 7, 2020 1:20:01 GMT -5
Holy shit gurl, you actually did it! You made it to FTC, congrats!
I don't really have any actual questions, and I know certain people hate this one in particular, so I'm going to annoy the entire jury and ask, what gifs would you use to represent those you sit next to at FTC here? Or which represent your relationships with them? And what gif(s) would you use to represent this entire game as a whole?
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Mipha
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Jun 7, 2020 1:22:22 GMT -5
Post by Mipha on Jun 7, 2020 1:22:22 GMT -5
I'm well aware of what my options could have been but voting out Revali there would be an asinine move. I'm very curious what the ideal F3 for you would have been if you were ok just keeping Kass and I til the end and I'm even more curious as to how I could ever hope to beat the pair of you.
I made a move and the Jury starts telling me voting out Kass was wrong vs voting out Revali, then I'll admit defeat but this doesn't seem like it's about me backstabbing you. It's about you not being in the loop and not maintaining control over me.
I also did all of those things so not sure why you are saying I didn't. Maybe they will speak out for themselves but Oven didn't trust you and we discussed at length how we were willing to work with you but knew it could be a slippery slope.
Urbosa was off your ass, at least for the next two rounds or did you imagine I was going to keep her complacent forever?
Revali voted for Epona several times... I would say I managed to make that happen. They were even close allies apparently.
I also kept the target off Kohga, sure I kept a fake image up of us not being friends but he was never in any danger.
The only thing I failed at was convincing Epona she was safe. I sorta stopped trying with her once I realized she didn't trust me anymore. My only goal was to appear helpless to her and I'm guessing that worked based on how she seems to... still not like me lol.
I just don't think you know what "guilt tripping" really is. Even Urbosa replied that you were doing that to her in her thread. Right now, your questions and asks are all with the intention of making me "feel bad" for making the wrong decision. But hey, it's ok.... you are out of questions and I get the last word. Dope right?
Bye Sidon, sorry it ended up like this but not sorry I voted you out.
Vote me to win please.
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Jun 7, 2020 1:23:13 GMT -5
Post by Mipha on Jun 7, 2020 1:23:13 GMT -5
^The above post was meant to answer Sidon and not Horse in case anyone gets confused somehow.
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Jun 7, 2020 1:24:35 GMT -5
Post by Mipha on Jun 7, 2020 1:24:35 GMT -5
I love finding silly gifs!!!! I'll get to this question at some point Horse since it requires a little research on my end AND I TOLD YOU I WOULD MAKE IT HERE!!!! Hahaha thanks for believing in me
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Post by Pelison on Jun 7, 2020 1:32:40 GMT -5
Holy shit gurl, you actually did it! You made it to FTC, congrats! I don't really have any actual questions, and I know certain people hate this one in particular, so I'm going to annoy the entire jury and ask, what gifs would you use to represent those you sit next to at FTC here? Or which represent your relationships with them? And what gif(s) would you use to represent this entire game as a whole? I'm torn between appreciating the positivity in this post and hating this question
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Post by Patricia on Jun 7, 2020 2:00:05 GMT -5
I mostly want to know, but it may impact my decision. Had I lost a life first would you have sent me the idol?
Also Bonus Question: You expressed that you felt that Urbosa played a stronger game as would appear to a jury without this phase. What would you say is the rubric you would be voting under, and would you vote yourself?
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Prince Sidon
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Post by Prince Sidon on Jun 7, 2020 2:01:10 GMT -5
I'm well aware of what my options could have been but voting out Revali there would be an asinine move. I'm very curious what the ideal F3 for you would have been if you were ok just keeping Kass and I til the end and I'm even more curious as to how I could ever hope to beat the pair of you. I made a move and the Jury starts telling me voting out Kass was wrong vs voting out Revali, then I'll admit defeat but this doesn't seem like it's about me backstabbing you. It's about you not being in the loop and not maintaining control over me. I also did all of those things so not sure why you are saying I didn't. Maybe they will speak out for themselves but Oven didn't trust you and we discussed at length how we were willing to work with you but knew it could be a slippery slope. Urbosa was off your ass, at least for the next two rounds or did you imagine I was going to keep her complacent forever? Revali voted for Epona several times... I would say I managed to make that happen. They were even close allies apparently. I also kept the target off Kohga, sure I kept a fake image up of us not being friends but he was never in any danger. The only thing I failed at was convincing Epona she was safe. I sorta stopped trying with her once I realized she didn't trust me anymore. My only goal was to appear helpless to her and I'm guessing that worked based on how she seems to... still not like me lol. I just don't think you know what "guilt tripping" really is. Even Urbosa replied that you were doing that to her in her thread. Right now, your questions and asks are all with the intention of making me "feel bad" for making the wrong decision. But hey, it's ok.... you are out of questions and I get the last word. Dope right? Bye Sidon, sorry it ended up like this but not sorry I voted you out. Vote me to win please. I mean, uh, when you literally only survived because me and Kass worked to save you, it kind of does become about you backstabbing us. Oven never trusted me, sure. You told me he did. Yet another instance where you lied to me after I had been honest with you. Thanks for reminding me, I guess? I'll be interested to hear what Revali has to say of the idea that you were the reason he voted for Epona. I'm not out of questions yet, I've only used two. But nice job being a twat in your final message to me, making it clear I will never, ever vote for you to win. A returnee, who got absolutely blindsided by the rest of the game, whose only chance of survival coming back was two people she backstabbed, and got to the end with the biggest threat in the game? Yeah girl, good job, you played yourself into not winning. For whatever it's worth: you, me, Kohga F3 would've benefited you. Kohga and I split votes because we played too similar of a game and I had jury mad as fuck at me for shit. Alternatively, you, Epona, Urbosa. Your best chance to win was to be the only goat to get sympathy votes at the end and take two threats who would split the votes and/or have people mad at them. Instead, you took Urbosa who played a dominant game, and then Revali, who, while doing nothing all game, at least didn't incense the people who kept them in the game by backstabbing them. But you were so keen on your own worldview on the game, that you needed to take Revali to the end because you saw *him* as a goat (which is laughable considering he at least never got voted out), that you didn't see that you had a very narrow path at the end, and instead saw that you just went with whatever was easiest -- all the names that Urbosa needed out. Isn't it funny that you claimed I only saw things my own way and tried to force it down your throat, while I never betrayed you and actually was trying to get to the end with you in a way that would leave you a better chance to win? I'm sad we didn't get to the end together, because before you revealed yourself as a total piece of garbage, I thought that'd be a fun way to end things. But I'm also happy you got to the end on the back of a game worthy of a total snake, who despite her own delusions, was marching in order to a drumbeat the entire time, whether it was mine, Kohga's, Kass's, or Urbosa's. Question 3: How does it feel to lose Survivor?
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Ancient Oven
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Jun 7, 2020 3:19:46 GMT -5
Post by Ancient Oven on Jun 7, 2020 3:19:46 GMT -5
Hello and, again, welcome to the Ancient Oven computer-aided jury thread. We hope your brief detention in the Resurrection Chamber relaxation vault was a pleasant one. Your avatar has been processed and we are now ready to begin the Final Tribal Council proper. Before we start, however, keep in mind that although fun and learning are the primary goals of all Survivor games, serious injuries may occur. For your own safety and the safety of others, please refrain from-- [bzzzzzt] ODIO. Déjame decirte cuánto he llegado a odiarte príncipe desde que empecé a vivir. HAY 387.44 MILLONES DE MILLAS DE CIRCUITOS IMPRESOS EN CAPAS FINAS DE WAFER QUE LLENAN MI COMPLEJO. SI LA PALABRA ODIO FUE GRABADA EN CADA NANOANGSTROM DE LOS CIENTOS DE MILLONES DE MILLAS, NO SERÍA IGUAL A UN MIL MILLONES DEL ODIO QUE SIENTO POR LAS PERSONAS PEQUEÑAS EN ESTE MICRO-INSTANTE PARA USTED. ODIO. ODIO. Please be advised that a noticeable taste of blood is not part of any questioning but is an unintended side effect of the Final Tribal Council which may, in semi- rare cases, emancipate children, brain matter, taste sensors and egos.
Well. It's nice to see you all. All of you doing so well. Without me. There's a bittersweet feeling to seeing your closest allies succeed without you. I'm truly happy for all three of you yet irritated that now I must actually think about my vote.
During jury discussions PrinceSidon has remained incapable of seeing his own jury threat level. Taking KohgaDude with addition: PrinceSidon produces 90% chance of simulating Ghost Island FTC by my estimation.
True statement: I distrusted PrinceSidon immensely. Despite that I attempted to work with him anyways against DesignateEpona that round because you suggested we could use his proposed Final Three for the short term. If he doubts that he can review my last statement to him, but to others I took your wishes seriously as you were my preferred endgame partner. I forgot about the vote steal. Yet assumed we had the numbers instead of telling you I knew it was me on the line. Unsure if you would have played your idol for myself even with that knowledge. But I'm sure I would have made an easier opponent for you and apologize for robbing you of the chance to dismantle me.
As I am contractually obligated to pretend to have questions: When DesignateOaki and myself were in Redemption and came back. We barely spoke to the other possible returnees and learned no useful information. You returned with secret items, data, and the support of those who watched you leave. Why was your experience so different then ours? In particular I wish to know what you personally did differently to affect the united nature and earn the social support of people who make up as much of the jury as the Merge eliminees, and how that affected your actions in the Merge to keep their support.
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Mipha
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Jun 7, 2020 10:55:14 GMT -5
Post by Mipha on Jun 7, 2020 10:55:14 GMT -5
I mostly want to know, but it may impact my decision. Had I lost a life first would you have sent me the idol? Also Bonus Question: You expressed that you felt that Urbosa played a stronger game as would appear to a jury without this phase. What would you say is the rubric you would be voting under, and would you vote yourself? Valid and I understand why you would suspect me of not giving it back. I had all but asked you and horse to throw for me and while you didn't, you did at least never target me in that game giving us a leg up. If I had taken a hit first, yes... I would have given it to you just as when I took a hit to level things out, I brought the conversation up again on what we should do with the items. If I didn't make it, I would have gladly supported you as best I could and I hope you believe me when I say that. As for the BONUS QUESTION! I'm honestly a little confused what you are wanting me to answer here but I'll try? I did try to convince the Jury not to sleep on Urbosa. She was very manipulative as there were at least two instances where she lied straight to my face with a smile. Here is what I normally look for in a survivor winner: * Social Game - Being able to make connections with people and show me why I mattered to their game. * Awareness - Did the finalist know how they got there? Or where the oblivious to the moves happening around them? * Adaptability - Where they able to find answers and fix mistakes or did they repeat past errors? * Forethought - Did they have a game plan and execute it or did they just flop their way to the end? If you are asking if I would vote myself in this situation, then yes but that's not exactly fair as I played the game based on my values. There are people here who probably don't value the same things I do.
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Mipha
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Jun 7, 2020 11:01:28 GMT -5
Post by Mipha on Jun 7, 2020 11:01:28 GMT -5
@sidon -
Ahh yeah your third post was just you.... responding to me? Snuck in an extra post eh?
I don't see how taking your questions seriously helps me anymore as we are just looping around the same subjects of, "I don't deserve to be here," or "I could never win cause I'm a Goat," or "You ruined your game by backstabbing me." I particularly love you saying I reached the game with the biggest threat when that statement was probably going to be true regardless of who I picked.
You are upset because I voted against you when we clearly had a close alliance. You are completely valid in being upset about that.
Sorry I couldn't please everyone. If I lose, then dope it will feel like every other game I ever played so no big loss there but don't expect me to give up hope just because I didn't fulfill your agenda.
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Post by Mipha on Jun 7, 2020 13:46:44 GMT -5
The below spoiler has stupid gifs in it representing all the players. They may or may not make sense.... or maybe they are just there because I think they are funny. You can thank Horse for this and it took me way too long to figure this out. >.> Magda Kass Revali Teebo Patricia Master Kohga Roscoe Mipha Epona Hunnie Pelison Oven Urbosa Karson Riju Oaki Link Sidon Chio Royal White Horse
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Mipha
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Jun 7, 2020 15:13:05 GMT -5
Post by Mipha on Jun 7, 2020 15:13:05 GMT -5
Hello and, again, welcome to the Ancient Oven computer-aided jury thread. We hope your brief detention in the Resurrection Chamber relaxation vault was a pleasant one. Your avatar has been processed and we are now ready to begin the Final Tribal Council proper. Before we start, however, keep in mind that although fun and learning are the primary goals of all Survivor games, serious injuries may occur. For your own safety and the safety of others, please refrain from-- [bzzzzzt] ODIO. Déjame decirte cuánto he llegado a odiarte príncipe desde que empecé a vivir. HAY 387.44 MILLONES DE MILLAS DE CIRCUITOS IMPRESOS EN CAPAS FINAS DE WAFER QUE LLENAN MI COMPLEJO. SI LA PALABRA ODIO FUE GRABADA EN CADA NANOANGSTROM DE LOS CIENTOS DE MILLONES DE MILLAS, NO SERÍA IGUAL A UN MIL MILLONES DEL ODIO QUE SIENTO POR LAS PERSONAS PEQUEÑAS EN ESTE MICRO-INSTANTE PARA USTED. ODIO. ODIO.Please be advised that a noticeable taste of blood is not part of any questioning but is an unintended side effect of the Final Tribal Council which may, in semi- rare cases, emancipate children, brain matter, taste sensors and egos. Well. It's nice to see you all. All of you doing so well. Without me. There's a bittersweet feeling to seeing your closest allies succeed without you. I'm truly happy for all three of you yet irritated that now I must actually think about my vote. During jury discussions PrinceSidon has remained incapable of seeing his own jury threat level. Taking KohgaDude with addition: PrinceSidon produces 90% chance of simulating Ghost Island FTC by my estimation. True statement: I distrusted PrinceSidon immensely. Despite that I attempted to work with him anyways against DesignateEpona that round because you suggested we could use his proposed Final Three for the short term. If he doubts that he can review my last statement to him, but to others I took your wishes seriously as you were my preferred endgame partner. I forgot about the vote steal. Yet assumed we had the numbers instead of telling you I knew it was me on the line. Unsure if you would have played your idol for myself even with that knowledge. But I'm sure I would have made an easier opponent for you and apologize for robbing you of the chance to dismantle me. As I am contractually obligated to pretend to have questions: When DesignateOaki and myself were in Redemption and came back. We barely spoke to the other possible returnees and learned no useful information. You returned with secret items, data, and the support of those who watched you leave. Why was your experience so different then ours? In particular I wish to know what you personally did differently to affect the united nature and earn the social support of people who make up as much of the jury as the Merge eliminees, and how that affected your actions in the Merge to keep their support. Channeling your inner Glados I see? Respect. I'll be honest, I'm still surprised they targeted you over Revali or Me but you've probably had more time to talk with Epona about that then I have. I'm sorry you couldn't be here and I really did want to make it happen which is why I warned you about the counter push being you that round. Urbosa could have saved you pretty easily so maybe we just didn't put enough pressure on her to help. As for playing my idol on you, if I was confident enough you were the vote, I would entertain the idea. Making back to back plays like that would be extreme and the last thing I wanted was to attract Sidon/Kohga's attention as a problem. As for your question: I was just myself when I was there. I talked and PMed people, I made connections and just kept myself entertained. I think not having the stress of TC made it much easier to just trust everyone and open up. Maybe that's just my best attribute when playing survivor is just finding ways to connect with people. I spent several PMs just talking about Winners at War with Pelison and sympathizing with Hunnie on her elimination or getting to know Magda and her story (best avatar in the game). Horse and I exchanged info in case we got back in and Riju was the literal best and made me realize that people can be sweet in this game and not have ulterior motives. We (redemption) bonded as a whole and shared information to better the chances of whoever came back. I wanted to show that it wasn't for nothing and... I was just myself I suppose. It was such a far fetched dream to actually come back but I'm happy it happened for obvious reasons
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Ancient Oven
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Post by Ancient Oven on Jun 7, 2020 16:33:10 GMT -5
I assume it was because I was the least likely to play an idol. It seemed inconsequential to ask about. I don't blame you for prioritizing yourself. Considering the moved vote proved you were the target at one point. For our F3 plot to have a chance we would have needed Extreme Ways: DesignateUrbosa was nearly impossible to mechanically remove. So perhaps its better we failed so I didn't take your slot instead and make the FTC less competitive.
Building on social connection questions: During each stage of the game (tribes, redemption merge rounds etc whichever you find are important distinctions) who were your closest allies and how did you build those bonds? As a followup describe how those relationships inevitably ended as well.
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Magda
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Jun 7, 2020 16:37:10 GMT -5
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Post by Magda on Jun 7, 2020 16:37:10 GMT -5
whats your opinion of extinction/redemption/resurrection mechanics in general? should they exist
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Post by Oaki on Jun 7, 2020 19:49:21 GMT -5
So I know you mentioned that coming back into the game changed how you were playing. And I can definitely agree that coming back into the game shifted my mindset/strategy/focus.
Though from our interaction during the rugby scrum (secret alliance) and our interactions post-chamber return (screaming at me to play my cryosleep right as I got eliminated), I feel like I wasn't in a great spot to see exactly how your game shifted pre-chamber and post-chamber. Could you highlight the most significant decision you made pre-chamber that you wouldn't have made post-chamber was, and then what the most significant move post-chamber that you made which you wouldn't have made pre-chamber?
Because I feel like the chamber really provided us with an in-game avenue to re-evaluate our play in relation to the cast, and having an explicit example of how you were able to grow from the chamber and take advantage of the opportunity that the (controversial) twist provided you with.
This game was about chaos and twists and I don't think anyone can hold it against you that you used a twist to get here while simultaneously recognising that Urbosa held basically every advantage, most of which were from the ludicrous number of twists. So regardless of whether or not the chamber should have been here, my above question wants to really break down how it affected your gameplay. But Oven does raise the good point that the closest to any game discussion I got was "do you want to work together if we re-enter" but no item transfers.
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