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Post by Urbosa on May 27, 2020 22:24:39 GMT -5
I'll either need to do something big here with some of the items or not mention them at all so they aren't held against me.
With the assumption Oven, Mipha, and Sidon were feeding information to Sidon or otherwise considering paths forward with him that didn't involve me, I didn't want to risk a misuse on that vote or to loop them in only to have a counter measure render them useless. Idols were flushed here, sure, which is good in and of itself. I know of Sidon's extra vote, which I could steal and use to counter any additional vote-influencing advantages. Kohga likely has the Power idol, though, and I can't wait to nullify it at F5.
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Saas Ko'sah
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Post by Saas Ko'sah on May 27, 2020 22:55:42 GMT -5
Saas’ Saasy Solicitations
Hello final six! You’ve all overcome great odds to get to this point and are officially in the top 28.57% of this game, so congratulations! One of you will be the Sole Survivor, but unfortunately, five of you will suffer humiliating defeats yet, either by being voted out or by being lambasted by the Jury!
1. Please summarize last round from your perspective. What do you make of the events that led to Oven’s elimination? Was this a good thing or a bad thing for your game, and how does it affect your plans moving forward?
2. Many items which may or may not still exist in the game might be expiring soon. What items do you know about? How does it affect your decisions when items might or might not be in the hands of your friends or of your enemies?
3. Assuming that this game is a F3 and not a F-something else, what is your ideal F3 at this point? What odds do you give yourself of winning if you get to the end with that F3? At this point in time, are you prioritizing getting to the end at all costs in order to plead your case in front of the Jury, or are you prioritizing getting to the end with the best possible shot at winning, even if it means your odds of making it to the end are lower?
4. Have you started thinking about your pitch to the Jury at all or writing your speech in your head? What do you think are your biggest strengths and biggest weaknesses when it comes to winning a Jury vote?
5. Please rank your fellow competitors from the person you most want to be eliminated this round to the person you least want to be eliminated, and explain why. What steps are you going to take this round to eliminate the people you need gone?
As the numbers dwindle, it’s time to do everything in your power to give yourself the best possible shot at winning. The decisions you make now will determine whether you’re a victorious winner or an embarrassed loser when all is said and done. Try not to screw it up.
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Urbosa
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Post by Urbosa on May 28, 2020 1:00:34 GMT -5
I'll answer the questions tomorrow. Suffice it to say I realize my game is over. Not really sure if there's a point to keep going, but I've always been a glutton for punishment (especially when it's wholly self-inflicted). Fight to defend Epona? Gets left out of Oven vote. Tries to warn Mipha about Sidon spreading Oven/Mipha/Sidon plan? Gets sent back to Sidon while also notifying him I pushed him as the vote. I'm just over it. I could have just sat back with Immunity and not committed to any plans until others actually proposed them or tried to build the coalition to execute a plan, but instead I tried to protect people I hoped had my back. Farthest I get here is Final Four. I see no scenario where I have a shot in an FTC — the remaining players want me gone, and the jurors all have stronger ties to anyone I'd be sitting next to.
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Post by Urbosa on May 28, 2020 19:38:11 GMT -5
...Fuck.
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Post by Impa on May 28, 2020 19:39:23 GMT -5
Whatcha gonna do?
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Urbosa
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Post by Urbosa on May 28, 2020 20:02:21 GMT -5
Still trying to get conversations going with everyone. The evening following results is usually a lot of testing the waters — Revali and Epona have already reached out with a line to some effect of, "I assume you are still gunning hardcore for Sidon. Yeah?" so they can take it right back to him and start another round of absolute madness.
I will be using Revali's Gale. I just need to decide my target. Do I target Sidon knowing he has an extra vote that I can play this round or, if it doesn't expire, next round? Do I target Kohga to see if he has an idol? If the ninja has more items and I end up with some dud, then I've effectively wasted the item though.
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Post by Urbosa on May 28, 2020 20:04:01 GMT -5
I think my ideal boot order here is Sidon > Kohga > Epona. Whether or not I can actually get support for Sidon is another challenge entirely.
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Post by Saas Ko'sah on May 28, 2020 20:23:13 GMT -5
Your ice arrow also expires this tribal council. Are you considering using it and if so on who?
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Urbosa
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Post by Urbosa on May 28, 2020 20:27:38 GMT -5
I am considering it. I think it will ultimately depend on what I gain from Revali's Gale. If I grab the extra vote, I could use the arrow on Epona to keep them safe. With such a small group, it might force Kohga to play an idol if he has one, thereby opening him up to an attack next round. I can see players like Sidon and Kohga trying to jump on an Epona wagon here as well since Mipha and Revali already voted for them. With the horse off the table, they will have to turn on themselves.
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Post by Urbosa on May 28, 2020 21:26:37 GMT -5
Was I supposed to activate it in a different way? I assume there is some deliberation in progress, but I wanted to make sure I went through the correct channel.
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Post by Urbosa on May 28, 2020 21:56:46 GMT -5
Sorry in advance to everyone for this round. As I said to the Guides, why not give everyone even more reasons to dislike me?
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Post by Urbosa on May 29, 2020 11:36:12 GMT -5
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Post by Urbosa on May 29, 2020 11:36:36 GMT -5
I have a lot of thoughts here, which I will try to distill down so that I'm not jumping back and forth to address valid concerns at different times. First, I'd like to reiterate that I appreciate your honesty -- I wish you had felt comfortable enough to come to me to have a dialogue several rounds ago, but I also completely understand why you didn't. I want to emphasize that nothing you said was taken personally; in fact, it felt like a weight lifted off my shoulders because I've spent the last few days wondering what the hell I did to upset you. My commitment to you has never wavered in this game, but I can recognize that loyalty and logic are not always compatible. You need to do what you see is best for your standing in the game. It might sting to know that, after all we've been through, that might not include me, but I can't fault you for that in any way. What I can say, though, is that these players know what they are doing by painting that narrative. "You are Urbosa's right hand man." Kass makes that argument knowing he was beaten -- that the very same people who tried to eliminate you that round would need help breaking us apart if they were to ever make it to the end. He was always calm, cool, and collected. He saw a potential fracture in our dynamic and exploited it to help out the others. I also see where you are coming from on the Sidon front: I saw the writing on the wall, though, and hoped sharing my thoughts would help us -- you, me, Oven, and eventually Mipha -- come together for the collective goal of survival. Do you not think Sidon has just as compelling of a case in front of a Jury? Maybe even more so? He's effectively turned enemies into allies the entire game: Oaki, Mipha, and even Oven seemed to have a change of baking rack last round (if not earlier). He's made bold moves with items to advance himself and to endear others to his cause. OF COURSE he is also going to try to break us apart: He needs us going after one another so he can more easily make it through votes. The same time he is calling you my lackey, he is attempting a blindside against you. The same time he is asking you to work with him instead, he is trying to create a narrative that you are pitching Epona. Regardless of if that is true, the fact is he was trying to make the target on you bigger. How does that look to a Jury if you two are sitting next to each other? "Hi, I'm Prince Sidon. I peeled two allies away from each other while openly targeting one of them. Crown me." None of my points against Sidon got personal or demeaned anyone -- I pointed out he is playing a superb game, and as such we should take note. At this stage, I can only assume you intend to reach FTC in some arrangement of you, Sidon/Kohga/Mipha. Again, the ninja can make a compelling argument that, despite going to a majority of the game's Tribal Councils, he has made it to the end without (at least so far) a single vote being cast against him. Couple that with the fact he made a move against you and then proceeded to exploit a fissure -- suspicion of Epona and the distance created between the two of us by other players -- to blindside Oven, and he has a clear argument as well. What I'm trying to say here is that everyone left has a viable argument. How you choose to proceed is entirely up to you, and I will respect it regardless because I'd like to still think you my friend and my champion confidante. I will ask you to reconsider the optics, though, of the argument you can make by getting to the end and saying you remained loyal to an alliance that started off on the bottom of the tribal hierarchy and, despite all odds, clawed its way to the top. That shows grit. That shows perseverance. That shows that WE fought to get where we are and succeeded despite twists meant to divide and players who sought to overpower us. I know that it is a bit idealistic of me to hope we can sit at the end and celebrate that achievement together, but at the end of the day that's what I've been committed to since Heart Container. Can you say that about any other player you hope to throw your lot in with?
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Post by Urbosa on May 29, 2020 13:22:56 GMT -5
Yeah, uh, Mipha even tried it on me, haha. I don't blame her, but I also didn't see much point in agreeing, since I don't think she'd have believed me anyway. She DOES have a case; she's done things, and her original elimination as an idol victim is more forgivable, I think, than an ordinary elimination. I know I actually do plan on giving her the time of day if I'm on the jury, and she does already have votes from Riju/Patty/Oven/Oaki, in all likelihood. And yeah, I do know that Epona will thrash me at the end, but I don't believe this is the time to worry about it. And if I had to lose to someone, at least her victory wouldn't be a bad ending, but I think I can be pretty secure in the knowledge that you will be able to beat her in challenges.Kohga. Darling. Please don't sit here and lie directly to my face. You want Mipha around as a potential goat. You want Sidon around because he without a doubt targets me before you. You want Revali around because he could potentially beat me in a challenge and thus give you an opening to get rid of me. "I think I can be pretty secure in the knowledge that you will be able to beat her in challenges," tells me all I need to know here. You CAN'T count on Epona to win a challenge, and thus her usefulness to you has expired because she certainly beats you at the end.
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Post by Urbosa on May 29, 2020 13:26:32 GMT -5
Now that I can say this safely, murdering my other friends is not a great way to make anything up to me! Reposting this here for postgame. "Murdering my other friends [before I can use them to their full advantage] os not a great way to make anything up to me!" You are about to have to choose between your "friends," so let wisdom be your guide <3
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