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Post by Oaki on May 22, 2020 0:13:58 GMT -5
I will go into a bit of detail about that (with reasons), though right now I've got some video editing to do!
Though my short answer is: I see a case for anyone at this stage although I think Urbosa has the most work to sway me to her side from my perspective. Because I just don't see why you go "hey, outsiders, let's unite", and then get shitty at one of them for using your name while you have immunity so can't be voted for anyway. People have been incredibly forgiving this game so it was just a questionable move that stopped her from getting into a solid alliance. She needed to own that vote to make it happen and she's going to be on the outs now.
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Post by Patricia on May 22, 2020 8:08:02 GMT -5
I was just as confused as you were! But when Oven was like "I'm going to play my idol tonight" I was like "Really? REALLY?" Revali made a ballsy play with that Amiibo reader and I have to respect it. It was my Amiibo reader. I gave it to Sidon so either him and Revali get immunity and we vote Oven, or one of you or Oven gets immunity and we vote Revali. But then he passed it to Revali to try and get it to be an Oven vote. Then Oven is like ohey I just got an idol can't kick me out.
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Post by Oaki on May 22, 2020 8:28:07 GMT -5
The thing that makes that all even crazier is that Oven found the idol at that tribe... so it would've worked had he not found it. It was a very last minute idol find on his part (not sure how quickly he found it though because I never know where to find those idol things unless someone bequeaths one to me)
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Post by Oaki on May 22, 2020 8:34:42 GMT -5
So Oaki, I'm curious how you'd rank the players in the game in terms of how likely you feel you'd vote for them (I realize we're a long way from FTC though). So to do this now while I'm here: I think I can see myself voting for anyone. Sidon and Kohga are playing the middleground very strongly. Kohga's just quieter about it than Sidon is. Revali seems to be connected to them but also is making it clear that he's making his own choices. They just happen to be the same choices as Sidon and Kohga. I can respect their middlegrounding as it is working well for them. Kass had everybody warn him when I went after him, from what it sounds like. So Kass is very well liked. He doesn't understand why, but that might have just been what he was telling me to try and shake me off of him. Epona and Kass are moments away from coming at each other. Sidon, Kohga, and Revali are doing the "waiting for fireworks", Epona and Kass are doing the "Preparing the fireworks." Oven and Mipha are the underdogs who everybody sees being useful when they either need to act in response to fireworks or cause the fireworks. So while they're "easy votes" (like I was), I think they're aware enough to manoeuvre themselves where they need to be. And in a chaotic complex game being in such a position is even more risky (and arguably more impressive if they can do it) because I think everybody's mentioned "safe voting to avoid idols" several times. Urbosa tried to make a move but chickened out/turned it on me for using her name. Something else may well have gone on? But my impression isn't very high from my understanding of how I was eliminated. But I'm prepared to be wrong about that.
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Post by Patricia on May 24, 2020 19:09:32 GMT -5
Oh shit, we got a hung vote.
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Post by Patricia on May 24, 2020 19:10:35 GMT -5
Drama Llama.
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Post by Patricia on May 24, 2020 22:42:38 GMT -5
Ok so, theories of Party Lines in this apparent war.
I assume that Revali and Sidon are together, probably making it Revali/Sidon/Kohga
I expect Mipha to be on Kass's side.
Leaving Urbosa/Oven/Epona
Thoughts?
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Post by Riju on May 25, 2020 0:07:12 GMT -5
I don't have a freaking clue what's happening. I doubt Mipha would trust Sidon or Kass...I am kinda thinking that Kass and Sidon are on the same side? I would have assumed a split vote could have gone to them since everyone has been deceived by them at some point. But the fact that the split is between Kass and Revali is pretty interesting. I keep forgetting Revali is still in the game. That sounds really shady, I swear it's not, it's simply because I've had like zero contact with him all game!! Revali, Kohga, and Oven are total mysteries to me so I'm equally surprised whenever I see votes for them and not for them. It's kind of interesting because usually at this point in a game I feel like I have a fairly decent read on everyone left...but with how all of the swaps happened I'm actually in the dark about a lot of people which is the exact opposite of what you'd expect for, well, all the swaps??
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Post by Patricia on May 25, 2020 0:33:53 GMT -5
I explicitly told her that Kass was the only trustworthy person in the game when we were chatting through the revival challenge. She may have fallen in with Urbosa though. She'd be working with Kass over Revali though. And Sidon was anti Kass but trying to keep it under wraps.
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Post by Oaki on May 25, 2020 5:59:53 GMT -5
Sidon was very worried about Kass as a player, and Sidon seemed close with Urbosa?
Urbosa wanted to go after Kass so I reckon Sidon followed her. Kohga and Revali I can imagine siding with Sidon.
Mipha and Oven I think stuck together, and I can see them siding with Epona and Kass? Kass is good with everyone so I can imagine him working with whoever he feels he has to.
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Post by Magda on May 25, 2020 10:10:07 GMT -5
I explicitly told her that Kass was the only trustworthy person in the game kass bonded with me saying we both liked teebo and wanted to look out for him since he was new, and made an explicit alliance with me over that subject and then voted me out and then voted teebo out next. thats the game even if it’s using my own good nature against me but trustworthy it aint
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Post by Riju on May 25, 2020 13:34:06 GMT -5
Guys Kass and Sidon both promise the world to whoever they talk to haha. They remind me so much of each other. Both write pages and pages to make you think you are actually building an alliance and then BAM they get stabby
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Post by Kass on May 25, 2020 19:41:57 GMT -5
The tie was Me/Sidon/Epona/Kohga vs Urbo/Revali/Oven/Mipha.
Going into the round, I think most people saw the game as three factions - Urbo/Revali/Oven, Sidon/Mipha/Me, Epona/Kohga. Urbo/Revali/Kohga had been pushing for Mipha to go the round before (after the push on me failed), Me/Sidon had been pushing for Oven to go, and Epona just wanted Oaki out.
Was a lot of back and forth in negotiating until people started to realise that if we were actually drawing battle lines, they would be in danger. So everyone just agreed to go Oaki as the easy option (was an easy choice for me given he tried to push for my elimination). Kohga really wanted Mipha to go so he was trying to get Oaki to play an idol if he had one, but Oaki didn't come back online in time.
So yeah, you come into this phase with the big sense of uneasiness about what happens now, because at this point Mipha's idol information is spreading and is showing that there are 7 (!) unplayed idols still in the game. Everyone wanted to make sure the vote was a blindside to some degree.
So then Sidon/me/Kohga/Epona (nobody really trusted Mipha except Sidon, who was okay to leave her on the outs of this plan because everyone else wanted to) decided to vote Revali while pushing Oven to try to dodge an idol but take out one of that trio. And everyone seemed to be in agreement over Oven being the easy boot although everyone kinda knew that Urbo/Revali were never going to just let it happen.
Then Mipha comes to me with this great idea to split off mine and her votes onto Revali just in case Oven plays and idol (the talk had been that he would be targeting Sidon). I said sure, because my vote was on Revali anyway. And boom, vote comes around and it's 4 on me, 4 on Revali.
As far as I can tell (I may not entirely be in the know about this) Urbo/Mipha hatched a plot to split the votes between Oven and Revali and take me out with a clean 4-3-1 (well, actually Mipha wanted Kohga but Urbo/Revali wouldn't go for that, so it ended up being me). Which didn't work, because the 4 of us were all on Revali regardless. So that's the leadup to the tie.
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Post by Oaki on May 25, 2020 21:17:33 GMT -5
Kohga really wanted Mipha to go so he was trying to get Oaki to play an idol if he had one, but Oaki didn't come back online in time. My item was Cryosleep and would have just extended tribal by 24 hours and revealed where the votes currently were. But I wanted people to think I had an idol and if I played it I was intending on doing something with the deadline extension and knowledge that everybody had written my name down. Not sure what though... But damn that's a big vote you went out on.
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Post by Kass on May 25, 2020 21:51:47 GMT -5
Something absolutely would've happened if there was an extra 24h. You were a consensus target that nobody was entirely happy with, but everyone was uneasily staying on for fear of something bigger happening. The moment something happened to upset that all hell would've broken loose
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