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Post by Korgu Chideh on Jun 8, 2020 11:34:25 GMT -5
idk. i haven't been thinking too deeply about this ftc apart from enjoying the vibe
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Post by Roscoe on Jun 8, 2020 11:35:42 GMT -5
It's hard to tell where most of the crowd that have been out for a while will vote, and that's where the swing is.
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Korgu Chideh
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Post by Korgu Chideh on Jun 8, 2020 11:54:21 GMT -5
is urbosa coaching it. please ignore this suggestion if it's dumb, it's because i'm very tired and sleepy etc
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Post by Zelda on Jun 8, 2020 12:25:11 GMT -5
So my brief synopsis by how I think things are going: Urbosa-Came in sort of as the "frontrunner" but that's a relative term since I don't think there is a clear one here. That being said, I don't think it's a complete loss, but I do think there is a bit of trying to claim moves that weren't altogether hers to claim and trying to pander to the jury which some of them are seeing through. I think she is still winning, but despite having amazing perception throughout the course of the game, she's not reading the room as well as I feel like she could. Mipha-Was never going to get certain votes here. The strict fact of the matter is that there are jury members/players that will never vote for someone who was removed from the game whether it be by an idol or not. Typically, I am of that same opinion, so it's hard to discredit some of this. However, my mindset has changed a lot in recent times and I do think it's a rash judgement, I'm not perfect, my mindset can be changed. I think that Mipha has an agenda and it is playing out. I think she is still a strong contender to win, especially with that FTC auto vote that somehow managed to still be in someone's hands by this point. She could be having a much worse FTC, but is not doing horribly and I think could be a really interesting dark horse upset depending on how the votes are split. With 14 votes up for grabs, Mipha could definitely pull enough in in order to win. Revali-In my opinion, Revali has had to do the most in order to stand a chance at this FTC, but he was always someone who had a shot to win it due to a really interesting gameplay. Originally, I thought this would be completely between Urbosa and Mipha for the win, but Revali's kind of getting scrappy in the 12th hour and it's not gone unnoticed. I don't know if it's enough to win at this point, but man if this were purely a debate and no game involved, I would say that Revali is doing the best job defending aspects of his game. I don't know that he will pull enough votes away from Urbosa or Mipha to actually win this, but it would be QUITE the upset if he does. Any of these three could win and I think I would be satisfied. It's a really good FTC and three really good players are here and are actively fighting for the title. It's nice to see
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Post by Saas Ko'sah on Jun 8, 2020 12:41:52 GMT -5
I don't think Revali has a chance to win based on what he's done so far, but I actually would like to see it. I think he's played well.
I feel like both Mipha and Urbosa are "claiming things they didn't do" but people are just calling out Urbosa more, which is a bad sign. A lot of the questions to Mipha feel kind of pandery. I don't think Urbosa came in as the frontrunner, but I think her overall TC has been slightly stronger than Mipha's. I'm just not sure if it's enough.
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Post by Daag Chokah on Jun 8, 2020 12:52:50 GMT -5
So I clicked on the video in revali's thread and followed reccomendations for a bit and now I have a new favourite song. If I was in the game I would cast my FTC vote for him based on that alone
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Post by Saas Ko'sah on Jun 8, 2020 13:00:00 GMT -5
Revali answering Sidon for his own question is actually badass. Urbosa should have done that.
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Post by Roscoe on Jun 8, 2020 13:42:56 GMT -5
I think FTC on MS tends to take a format where the strongest speaker(s) have to do the convincing. In this instance, Urbosa (and Revali) is clearly a stronger speaker than Mipha, so she's being more deeply critiqued from both positive and negative angles. If she does well enough, I think she wins. If she doesn't, I think people default to Mipha (unless she does *particularly* poorly).
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Post by Karson on Jun 8, 2020 15:02:16 GMT -5
Urbosa definitely needs to be more aggressive and not being tip toeing around. I think that is hurting her, she needs to not hold back.
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Post by Saas Ko'sah on Jun 8, 2020 18:06:32 GMT -5
I think Mipha's going to win, and I really don't love that outcome, because I do think Urbosa would make a better winner, especially because as Kass rightly points out, if Mipha had her druthers she would be sitting next to Khoga and losing to Khoga. And also like someone getting that individual time to socialize with the Jury is such a massive advantage that no one is even thinking about because they were the Jury, they did the socialization.
I am happy for Mipha if she wins though. I just don't find her game to be that impressive.
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Post by Saas Ko'sah on Jun 8, 2020 18:08:39 GMT -5
Urbosa hasn't been great at FTC, but Mipha hasn't really been challenged at FTC so it's hard to compare. I definitely think Urbosa was the underdog coming into this, no matter what it seems like, and if she does win, it will be because of her FTC performance.
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Post by Saas Ko'sah on Jun 8, 2020 18:13:54 GMT -5
My thing against Mipha isn't only that she was voted off, but that even once she returned, I don't really see the badass player the Jury sees. Even in her speech I don't see it. She never really drove strategy in the game. She never drove anything, and she didn't have to work at being seen as a goat, other people saw that in her because she'd been eliminated.
It's one thing if you run the game and are super dominant and drive strategy once you return, but Mipha wasn't. She's basically the same as Revali, only Revali didn't have the benefit of getting voted out and having a private bonding session with Jurors who passed off their items.
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Post by Saas Ko'sah on Jun 8, 2020 18:21:39 GMT -5
Won Wisdom Idol (Power)- And misplayed it. Not a strength. Final 3 with Team Zora (Wisdom)- Ok, but non-unique Won Redemption (Power)- Because you were voted out Was given Spirit Idol and FTC advantage (Courage)- Because you were voted out. Also misplayed the idol. Manipulated game with redemption knowledge (Wisdom)- Because you were voted out Allied Sidon to help keep me safe from my targets (Courage)- Ok Allied Oaki/Oven as redemption buddies (Courage)- Because you were voted out Blindsided Kass (Wisdom)- Because Urbosa convinced you to Humbled myself to Kohga for an alliance (Courage)- Ok Knew exactly how many idols were in play and narrowed down by F8 who had what (Power)- Because of an item you got from being voted out Lied about the F4 challenge to have people prioritize my targets and not Urbosa (Wisdom)- Because people thought you might have information because you were voted out (maybe a stretch)
Like where is Mipha's game without being voted out? It's nowhere. Over half of her best moves in the game are a direct consequence of her elimination. That's a serious problem for me.
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Post by Daag Chokah on Jun 8, 2020 19:01:12 GMT -5
Mipha is 100% a weak winner
Yeah
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Post by Daag Chokah on Jun 8, 2020 19:01:49 GMT -5
Not every game needs a good winner though? i think the true ending we needed was kohga winning but we are all r.obbed on this sad day
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