Mipha
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Post by Mipha on May 25, 2020 13:04:50 GMT -5
I get the impression that regardless of the outcome of this game, Sidon will claim this move was incorrect at all costs so I'm posting the conversation here so spectators can get a good look at how intense our relationship is and how stressed out this guy has been all merge.
Mipha
Kohga/Epona voted Revali too huh?
I voted with the other side because at least I knew where they were all voting at.
For what it's worth, I made sure they didn't vote you but I worried if Kass knew I was going to swap, he would use his vote steal. Maybe now he will just give it to you? Win/Win!
Sidon
jesus fucking christ i do not have the energy for this
i dont intend to flip, do you?
Mipha
Flip your vote to... Kass?
I don't think so although Kass is talking to me right now. I think he is trying to figure out a way to persuade me.
Sidon
kass just told me he would give you the spirit orb if you flip to save him here. after saying he doesn't have it.
if you don't flip then i think we're handing urbosa the game. like 100%. she's straight-up not taking you to the end, and i'm probably next on her hitlist after kass.
meanwhile if you flip and kass gives you an idol that puts you in an incredible position as having an idol, being someone that urbosa needs to rely on moving forward, and still being in kass's good graces.
like if this goes to rocks, it's 75% that someone that voted against revali goes home. and if that happens, urbosa just free rolls her way with her allies.
like... im so confused. urbosa was gunning for you HARD last round, and other than me, kass was the first person who was willing to work with you instead of targeting you. why throw in your lot with her over kass?
Mipha
Yeah I'm shocked. I, of course, have no proof that he would but I strangely believe him. It figures he has it though.
I flipped because of Kohga/Epona honestly. I know they are both not exactly friends of mine and I tried to get the 3 to vote on Kohga instead because I trusted Kass but they didn't budge but now that Kohga voted Revali, I feel it will be easier to get a vote going that way next time.
Honestly, I voted with the 3 people who told me where they were voting and what their plan was instead of the 2 person alliance I had with 2 randos who I couldn't predict. Sure enough, they voted Revali after telling me they were going Oven so they aren't exactly innocent here. I want to work with you and returned the favor keeping the vote off you, but I also can't coast behind people who don't trust me. This builds trust with a different group and while Kass and apparently you, will try to convince me that they will dump me first chance they get...
I have no proof that Kohga/Epona won't do the same. I'm not a threat... I'm just a number and I've never been that before so if people want to use me, they need to offer more protection. You did that and I got your back even if I did lie about what vote I was doing here.
I'm sorry. I'll be staying on Kass and recommend you swap because getting randomed out would be the worst outcome.
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Mipha
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Post by Mipha on May 25, 2020 13:09:17 GMT -5
Sidon
kohga isnt your friend, epona seems to be? like shes said nothing bad to me. and at least in that scenario, you have me/kass, two people, able to control what epona/kohga are doing. i'm not going to vote kohga next round. you voted an ally of mine this round and now want me to go in on kohga next round leaving myself with nothing? im sorry, that's really selfish of you and i dont think that's fair to ask me to be okay with that.
keeping the vote off me? revali is claiming he did the same thing. urbosa literally came after you last round and was mad at me because i wouldnt let you go home. now she's adapted her strategy to just convince you to work against me i guess? im seriously confused.
i hope we're not both in jury in like three rounds bitching about this. because this seriously sucks.
Mipha
Epona is trying real hard to make it seem like I'm throwing my game away too but I don't think she understands that what's bad for her isn't necessarily bad for me. I know you don't want this.... and she doesn't want this...
But don't doom and gloom. This isn't that bad of a situation, if anything you will probably benefit from it. Epona/Kohga will obviously still vote with you. You have the extra vote. Kass will probably give one of you the other vote item. That means its a 5v4 next round in your favor.
What are you stressing about? That you are losing a friend? Cool, you have an ally on the jury that's great.
The game needs back and forth and while Kass wasn't my first choice of a person to go, at least finally a threat is leaving the game! If we are both in the jury, it will probably be because of some ridiculous idol play for you and me getting voted out for not cooperating because no matter what I do, people seem to be mad at me for it.
Sidon
yes, mipha, im fucking mad at you for this. you say what's good for epona's game isn't necessarily good for yours. well, saving you last round wasn't necessarily good for my game, but i did it, because i gave you my word and i held to that. i bent over backwards last round to try to stop urbosa and others from pushing you and got the target off of you. kass was a major factor in that.
you repay that this round by... going after kass? the person who wanted to work with you and was literally the only person in the game that would vouch for saving you other than me? with urbosa and kohga not fans of yours, kass and i both worked overtime to try and help. and not only that, you went after kass WITH urbosa so that yall could save... OVEN? or hell, REVALI, the first name you threw out at me as an alternate vote? why the hell is oven or revali staying in better for you than kass staying in?
your appeal to me telling me not to doom and gloom is that... i can blow my extra vote next round to try and stay alive and tie it? like, really? kass isn't giving me shit, if anything he's giving it to epona. cool, i can blow the one advantage i have in the entire game to try and survive one more round on a hope and prayer.
what exactly is the "back and forth" happening here? bc from my perspective, i see that the people i want gone arent going home, and meanwhile, the other side of the numbers are just getting votes that go exactly in their favor. every single round.
like im just looking for a shred of logic as to how this improves your game, or mine. ive seriously sat here for hours being like trying to find a way to understand it from your perspective and i dont.
i know im incredibly heated right now, and that's because i feel more betrayed by you than anyone this entire game, so im searching for some kind of understanding here. and also really want you to understand how i feel.
Mipha
Can we stop and just realize for a moment that I literally got eliminated already so unless you get eliminated by me, you can't really claim I'm betraying you.
I busted my bum too this round keeping the vote off you and wouldn't have agreed to do this if it was on you.
Thank you for voting with me and helping me. I will continue to repay that and have no intention of ever voting you but we can continue to measure the size of our egos and who has helped out who more or you can not risk your life to save Kass and realize you aren't doomed next round.
What do you expect to happen? That the four of us will just vote you and that you can do nothing to stop it? Why?
How are you imaging this to go down in the next couple rounds that just spells your demise?
For the record, I wanted the split on Revali to make this vote not go to rocks because now Kass just gives his Idol to Epona or something.
Sidon
you got eliminated not by my own hand in a round that i thought oven was the countervote. where patricia played an idol. like, how exactly was that me betraying you? the reason i felt like i wanted to work with you was because my own ignorance and lack of information lead to you going home, for the first time the whole game i didnt know what was going on, and you came to me saying you heard your name and i was like "nah nah it's okay" bc i was so confident in what i was doing. was it stupid? yes. was it a betrayal? i think you'd have a hard time making that case.
i mean, if your appreciation for kass being on your side last round is to turn around and vote him, what does that give me to work with? i may be not doomed next round. maybe im doomed two rounds from now. but im doomed eventually. there's no path to the end for me anymore, kass was part of that path.
yeah, honestly, i expect the four of you to keep voting together until urbosa cakewalks her way to the end for an easy win. kohga and epona probably have idols. if yall cant target them, im the only one left to target. im the easy split vote.
here's what happens: you four decide to split votes because for some unknown reason people keep wanting to let urbosa drag them to the end. and you guys all have items or something, i dont know. i have one thing. there are like seventy billion other things in the game. lets say i survive f7. let's say i survive f6. i have to use my extra vote to do it. f5 im dead in the water to advantagegeddon unless i pull out a miraculous immunity win.
so id love for you to tell me how the kass vote and you being unwilling to flip somehow paves out a favorable path for me.
okay, so you wanted to split on revali, and now you have an opportunity to flip on him and literally get an idol from kass that WONT go to epona... and you're 100% committed to voting kass anyway?
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Mipha
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Post by Mipha on May 25, 2020 13:11:29 GMT -5
Mipha
Sidon. Are you... sure none of this sounds familiar to you?
How you didn't trust Patricia even though she had an idol and showed it to you but you knew Patricia was closer to Kass and myself so you should probably vote her out. How I was annoyed because Patricia was totally on your side and willing to help you. Now we are in a situation where you are (reasonably) upset at me because I am voting your closest ally who is trying to bribe me with an idol.
I'm totally willing to swap here to keep those items in our team but I also want to make sure he actually has them before just taking him on his word. I asked him to give them to you to confirm.
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You also aren't considering the opposite side. I can't just stay with these other three knowing that between you/kohga/Epona yall have two vote manipulation items and who knows how many idols. And Urbosa and other totally think you have the courage idol so they aren't just going to vote you either. Plus how do we split the vote in a 4v3 assuming yall don't use the vote manip things.
All it takes is one idol next round and suddenly there is no majority anymore.
I just think you are twisting things into situations that are bad for you and sure, you might not trust me much right now but I'm not voting you and I don't know what else to say outside of that.
Kohga is pissed at me and wants me gone even though I'm just apparently some stupid number that can't play the game right according to literal everyone.
Sidon
yeah, except that the groundswell of support was on patricia. with or without my vote, i made no difference that round. i didnt lead it or push it. this vote wouldnt have gone through with you. and now you're literally the swing vote between saving someone who worked with you and going with someone who didn't. i think it's a fair bit different in that i made no actual impact that round, even if i hadnt voted patty. and in response, he went after me. twice.
i also only literally took patricia out bc she straight up told me if revali won immunity i was going home. that's also a far cry from kass not wanting you out and wanting to work with you long term. completely different circumstances imo.
what other item is he offering you? bc so far, he's only mentioned the spirit orb idol to me.
i dont have the fucking courage idol. holy shit im so tired of this. i literally had a broken mouse for the first challenge, there was zero way i was getting it, and i wanted immunity to take out riju so i didnt even try. ive repeated myself so much it's nauseating at this point. im being pegged by people like urbosa who are painting shit on me to get their way and paint targets elsewhere. what other vote manipulation item exists outside of my extra vote between me/kohga/epona? what second vote manipulation item?
i dont trust you right now because i see how you are treating kass when he was fully in your corner. not even the initial vote on him, that's at least somewhat excusable? but the refusal to swap your vote. and i was also fully in your corner. so what's going to stop me from being the next victim of this?
i guess maybe im close to kass so i see how genuine he was about working with you and my brain went "yes! finally! someone else to work with me and mipha!" then you're gonna send him packing this round.
i dont think youre just some stupid number who cant play right. i do think that backstabbing the only two people in the game -- and i cannot stress this enough how much literally every other player was throwing your name out there -- is a stupid move.
Mipha
Did Kass give you anything yet? If he can prove he has this idol and is willing to share it with us by at least showing it to you, I'll trust him and vote Revali.
Other then that, I don't really see the point in arguing here. What's done is nearly done and the only thing your message is doing is guilt tripping me and frankly, I got enough of that from my dad to not want to play the game that way with you.
I'll wait til next round when the results are in and everyone has calmed down a bit.
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Mipha
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Post by Mipha on May 25, 2020 13:13:08 GMT -5
Thats it for now. I might post more of it if he gets juicy but yeah... Sidon is NOT happy and for obvious reasons. He is entitled to be unhappy here. What he can't do is doom and gloom because his game is far from over. Sure, a target could go on his head but if it does, I'm starting to worry it will be because of his attitude right now and less about the gamestate.
Please don't use this thread to ask questions, it's just a side thread to keep this relationship organize for people to see.
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