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Post by Urbosa on May 9, 2020 23:28:38 GMT -5
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Post by Urbosa on May 9, 2020 23:30:42 GMT -5
Oh man gotta ask though, do you know the rumors that Mipha is trying to backstab you (maybe frontstab you at this point)? My information is second and third hand but seems fairly ubiquitously known by people since I came back from exile! okay so like, i need to level w/ you: while i was on a tribe with patty, she told me that mipha was going to play double agent with you and eventually take u out. i questioned mipha about it and she said she didnt mean it that way, just that you were clearly a big player and someone she could work with temporarily. she was really dodgy on the question about it. Okay, take this with a HUGE grain of salt since it's coming from pretty far down the chain, but, I hear that Mipha is very specifically planning on trying to backstab and vote you out, and Patty is either also planning that, or is at the very least highly on board with the Vote Urbosa Out Train. Don't know how true that is, but I just wanted to warn you about it. Something is up. Either these accounts are consistent because they are accurate and they are trying to tip me off, or these accounts are consistent because they have been developed for consistent messaging. If the latter is true, then this train of thought is likely fabricated / embellished to get Mipha and I to go after one another, which buys Horse/Epona/Sidon/Kass/?? more time to consolidate power. That's how Boston Rob won Redemption Island: Ensure factions that could team up with similar objectives in mind preoccupy themselves with taking out one another that they don't notice a smaller group navigating to the end of the game. I had planned to lay low coming into the Merge so I could see where the pieces fell. Having my name publicly proposed as the vote last round was no accident — people will likely be looking for any reason to take me out when I no longer factor into their plans. That said, I REFUSE to play the role of the witless pawn. This group needs to be broken up ASAP. |
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Post by Urbosa on May 10, 2020 2:41:53 GMT -5
POTENTIAL VOTING BLOCS:
Faction 1 (4): Royal White Horse, Epona, Kass, Sidon
Faction 2 (4): Mipha, Patricia, Hunnie, Link
The second group doesn't give me much confidence to be honest. Patricia will naturally be suspicious of Link for defecting last round; Link will naturally be suspicious of Mipha for making a move to idol him out; Hunnie has connections to Kass and Epona; and both Mipha and Patricia could easily want to eliminate me as soon as possible.
Unknown variables: Revali (might have aligned with Epona and Horse) and Kohga (has ties to Kass, Revali, and Epona).
I need to follow up with Revali to see how things on Medoh went. Horse and Epona seem to be playing loose with alliance offerings (their newest pitch was to Hunnie), so I wouldn't be surprised if the following options they have floated:
Horse/Epona/Sidon/Kass
Horse/Epona/Sidon/Urbosa
Horse/Epona/Hunnie/Urbosa
Horse/Epona/Revali / Kohga / et. al
If Horse or Epona got a sense that Revali could be pulled in as a number because he was on the outs and in need of allies (sounds familiar), then that puts me in a BAD spot. I had hoped to go forward with him as my Number 1, so we'll see what kind of information he gives about Medoh. I swear to Hylia if they all say, "Oh, we just enjoyed some time off after winning immunity" I may scream.
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Post by Urbosa on May 10, 2020 2:45:48 GMT -5
Ideal returnees for acquiring reinforcements:
Ancient Oven: Was notably close to Mipha, but was also taken out by Epona and Sidon.
Riju: As much as I prayed for her fall to ensure Zora could be broken up, it may be beneficial to have someone return that will take up the banner for eliminating Horse. That still leaves me with a now solidified alliance on the other side of the spectrum, but that at least shifts the dynamic so it is no longer entirely Urbosa v. Mipha.
Teebo: To go after Kass. I have a legitimate excuse for voting Teebo — it was either he went or I went. Kass sold him down the river.
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Post by Urbosa on May 10, 2020 3:08:27 GMT -5
Horse is PUMPING me for information, and I am just telling him everything I think he wants to hear.
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Post by Urbosa on May 10, 2020 3:14:53 GMT -5
The round Robbie was eliminated was truly something I've never seen before in a game of Survivor. He nuked his game for absolutely no reason. Everyone seemed to be getting along, making attempts to feel out potential targets (meanwhile I'm stressing hardcore that Revali/Link/Robbie would just team up to take out either me or Mipha), when all of the sudden Robbie messages Mipha to let her know she was his target because he "hated her personality." He then PMed me, completely shifting our conversation to tell me that I should consider myself lucky to survive that round, but that I would "die" immediately after Mipha (direct quote there). I'm not sure if he sent anything to Revali or Link, but to me he followed up his promise for death and mayhem by laying out "the winning alliance's hit list," which included Mipha, me, you, and Kohga. It. Was. Wild. WHAT. ok ive heard similar stories but not laid out like that. like. WHAT. honestly that's insane. and i was on his hit list!? what the fuck. i was nothing but nice to that guy. i should've just gone after him instead of chio the first tc when there was an opportunity. im glad you walked away from that bs okay. that's seriously the stupidest shit ive ever heard in a survivor game. I was dumbfounded. He claimed he had sorted things out with Courage for post-merge, but he didn't specify who that was. Things were moving too quickly to really take the time to run through possible rationales. At first, I thought he was just trolling me, but he immediately switched back to a conversation about board games so I'm inclined to believe he thought he was being honorable in tipping me off. He had to go, though  I think it just reinforces the idea we need to be EXTREMELY careful as we enter this next phase of the game. There are likely some tight bonds, so one false move could find us on the Jury or stuck in limbo somewhere. Honestly, Robbie may be the gift that keeps on giving. I may have come on a bit strong in the last message, but I think it will be important in the immediate future for Sidon to somewhat suspect Horse has ulterior motives and/or grand designs that do not involve him (or us). I didn't specifically name Royal White Horse, of course, but Sidon can likely deduce that, by this point in the game, Oaki was gone and Robbie and Link were on opposite sides of the Courage power dynamic. That leaves Riju, who also wasn't likely to align with Robbie, and Horse. |
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Post by Urbosa on May 10, 2020 3:18:49 GMT -5
it's all good. what's survivor without a few rough tribals? at least in my experience anyway. i have no idea who robbie wouldve had with him except for link? his number one was riju i think. and she was gone. so... we do have to be wary. truth be told, since our last pm, ive heard that me, you, and revali are being mentioned as the top of all of our tribes? which is insane to me bc there were three people who i saw controlling the tribe -- riju, link, and oaki. i guess now that riju and oaki are gone, maybe it's link spreading it around? but i def heard from patty that mipha considered you to be the top of wisdom. revali has been pitched as the king of power from tc1, but i dont buy it. i think it's best if u and i dont let on that we are close. we need to get a good feel on kass for how he's standing with things, but yes, im with you until the end. if the narrative is already out there that we're both """""threats""""" then we need each other more than ever, especially if people are waiting to stab us. i think we should make sure kass is still on board, but keep in mind... ive heard from like 900 people that kass is a "good player" who is strong, so whatever he tells us, we should cross-check. im with u until the end and im 99% sure ill just need ur straightforward sanity to get there otherwise i might punch an actual toddler or something. Ugh. Sidon. It's a good thing you are pretty. Really? Link? I'm sure the declarations of fidelity are a convenient smoke screen, but I at least have a plan of attack with Sidon: (1) Capitalize on his paranoia at being highlighted as a threat and (2) Corrode his confidence in the group of Epona/Horse/Kass. |
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Post by Urbosa on May 10, 2020 11:45:52 GMT -5
It never ceases to amaze me how a game like this can continually just BEAT someone down.
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Post by Daag Chokah on May 10, 2020 11:47:08 GMT -5
Who is being BEAT down?
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Post by Urbosa on May 10, 2020 11:55:09 GMT -5
ME. On one side, I am getting inundated with messages saying Mipha is targeting me. On the other side, players are seemingly reach out to comfort me and to see what my thoughts on some Shiny Alliance A or Sparkling Alliance B are: Of course! I think we can get an easy majority here with us/Epona/Sidon/ Kohga/Revali, with maybe Hunnie as our seventh as needed. Either way, that core 6 seem to all be pretty openly against Patty/Mipha/Kass/Link, so I think we're going to be fine for quite a few rounds - well, until idol drama comes into things. How do you feel about Kohga and Revali? This pretty much confirms my worries that Horse and Epona got to Revali, which means the ONE person I hoped I could actually trust and play this game with is likely compromised. What was the extent of their arrangement here? Protect each other loosely until some of the bigger targets take each other off the board? Final 6? Final 3? It's impossible to know for sure, but the fact that Revali tells me they took time to recuperate on Medoh and not really talk much game now suggests he is lying straight to my face. I got through the Robbie vote in Heart Container feeling like I had just a bit of momentum. Then I go to Naboris, where any progress was almost immediately destroyed. Now I'm here, and I just feel like I have no one who legitimately wants to work with me. It is just frustrating. I can do a lot of things — I can talk, I can lay out potential ideas, I can follow threads and point out where people may be vulnerable — but none of that matters if everyone is just patting me on the back to search for a spot to bury their knives. |
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Post by Daag Chokah on May 10, 2020 12:15:26 GMT -5
What do you think of Mipha?
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Post by Urbosa on May 10, 2020 12:51:10 GMT -5
What do you think of Mipha? That's my problem: I don't know. Our relationship in this game has run the spectrum from potential allies to primary targets — I can't fault her for coming after me if she is because I just tried to blindside her in Heart Container. If Robbie hadn't detonated his own game, this entire situation could be incredibly different depending on how I ultimately voted while suspecting she had an idol. I'd like to work with Mipha moving forward. If only for a few rounds, we really need each other in this game. I just don't know if there has been too much suspicion built up over the game for it to actually work. That's probably what players like Horse and Epona are banking on in the first place — that Urbosa and Mipha, two social threats in their own right, will be so focused on each other that they COMPLETELY miss the larger picture until it is much too late. I could approach her with matter-of-fact honesty, but where does that leave me if she backs away or tells anyone who is just looking for an excuse to vote me? If she confronts Epona or Horse? If she leaks that to Sidon, who then spreads because of his own paranoia? I can't be direct with Mipha in the way I was with Revali; the two operate in very different ways. Ultimately, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but I have no idea if Mipha would agree that we have common enemies. |
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Post by Urbosa on May 10, 2020 13:06:54 GMT -5
For those of you following along and and laughing at my idiocy in this game, here are a few steps of my initial plan for getting a foothold in this merge: 1. Gather information | This seems fairly obvious, but I need to see how concentric these circles of alliances really are. If I am to take Horse at their word, their intent is to solidify a group of Horse/Epona/Sidon/Kohga/Revali/Urbosa to guarantee a core group safety moving forward. Notably, players such as Kass have suddenly been removed from earlier iterations of this very same group dynamic. 2. (Re)Build Bonds | This one pretty much builds off everything I've said about Mipha so far. If I can find common ground with Mipha, then that hopefully bridges the gap to Patricia. 3. Spread Doubt | Currently, I'm using Link as a Trojan Horse to pass along information I can't share myself. I've already enlisted his help to reach out to Sidon with more "information" about Robbie's hit list: We shall plant the seeds that will grow into our lovely garden of dead Horse! Muhahahahahahahaha! (that sounded a lot cooler in my head). I think we can definitely convince Sidon, yeah. I'm not entirely sure he was ever super comfortable with Horse anyway, lord knows I never trusted the stallion all that much. I think Sidon is already aware that Robbie and Horse were a duo so we just need to inform him of the bigger picture there and of how the bigger picture doesn't really seem to include him. This serves two purposes: First, it emphasizes to Link how much we ought to be relying on each other for safety. I gave him the Sensor, he jumped ship and then offered to return the item. I told him to hold onto it as a token of good faith on my end. Link's motivations are, for the most part, pretty transparent: Without players like Riju in the game, he needs allies. He needs to feel involved in the calculus of this game, and he needs to feel like he is exerting some sort of influence. This gives him a job that keeps him content and builds trust. Second, this play potentially peels Sidon away from Horse and company. I've been working to get Sidon into a vulnerable state as far as paranoia is concerned — suggesting (likely not incorrectly) that we are seen as pawns in a more involved game. He's voiced concerns, saying we should create distance between ourselves and gather information. Great, I'll have Link send you the information I want you to have. If it's coming from someone else, someone with ties to the original Courage, then it may take root. If Sidon falls, then that gives me another person to exert pressure or worry on people like Kass (who is now one of Horse's targets) and Kohga (connected to Epona and Revali, but also pragmatic enough to not want to settle for a backseat ride to the Jury). I'll try to provide updates as much as I can. Hylia protect me. |
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Post by Urbosa on May 10, 2020 19:20:21 GMT -5
PRAISE HYLIA. MY LOVIN' OVEN IS BACK.
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Post by Urbosa on May 10, 2020 19:37:48 GMT -5
My hope is that Oaki and Ancient Oven returning knocks players off axis just enough for me to take advantage of the moment.
To my knowledge Ancient Oven and I parted on amicable terms, so his return is a net positive.
Based of everything I've heard about Oaki's elimination, there might be quite a bit of bad blood between Oaki, Kohga, and Sidon. Evidently, Oaki and Patricia were close; Revali named him his top ally back in Heart Container, too, which might influence the makeup of the larger Horse alliance. I'll remain optimistic that Oaki wouldn't target me first if he is on a revenge tour, BUT he is more likely to realign with former allies.
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I think it just reinforces the idea we need to be EXTREMELY careful as we enter this next phase of the game. There are likely some tight bonds, so one false move could find us on the Jury or stuck in limbo somewhere.
