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Post by Prince Sidon on May 16, 2020 0:03:53 GMT -5
I will vote Revali over Oven, and so would Oaki and Oven. Like straight up, my game is just straight up better positioned if it's that way. I'm sorry but that is what will happen. However my plan is for you and Revali to have immunity forcing a vote on to Oven, or me honestly. But I am hoping to spill some beans to get Revali on side. I am going to pass you an item. If you play it on Revali either you both win immunity or neither of you do. Both are good situations for us. Heh, I like those conversation a lot as well. Which is why I felt kinda betrayed by Epona because we had a proper solid DnM which was kinda lovely honestly. But I haven't had that with Urbosa or Kass really. Kass and I have been full on business after the early stages, but we did talk about a lot of cool stuff before then. Anyways, we have an easy route here. Say you bid on a mystery box and this was in it. If it gets out I passed it to you we lose Oaki because this is fairly obviously me orchestrating a situation to get rid of Oven.
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Prince Sidon
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Post by Prince Sidon on May 16, 2020 0:04:48 GMT -5
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
in the span of 4 hours i managed to flip patty from "im going to vote for you if it comes down to it" to "im going to give you an item that will give you immunity and let us blindside someone i think is my best chance to get to the end"
temptation to turn around and blindside patty here is just astronomical, how often do i get to convince someone to give me an item and then blindside them TWICE in the same game?
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Post by Prince Sidon on May 16, 2020 0:19:27 GMT -5
oh baby this introduces options
if i can get revali to compare scores with me, ill know if i need to play it or not.
if revali beats me, i just grab immunity with him, easy. if he doesn't beat me... then i just don't play it. then while im immune i have the option to blow up what patricia just did with incriminating pms to oaki and/or oven and get rid of patricia, keeping the advantage for a later date
it will undoubtedly be a messy tribal but if im immune what the fuck do i care
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Post by Korgu Chideh on May 16, 2020 0:40:51 GMT -5
if neither you or revali are immune, what will you do?
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Post by Korgu Chideh on May 16, 2020 0:41:10 GMT -5
neither nor, neither or, basically the same thing
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Prince Sidon
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Post by Prince Sidon on May 16, 2020 0:54:34 GMT -5
it all depends on me getting revali's score from him. if he has me beat, ill play it regardless, because revali has been a dominant challenge threat all game and he won this challenge the first round.
thing is, i also won it the first round, just nobody knows that yet.
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Post by Prince Sidon on May 16, 2020 12:47:38 GMT -5
full disclosure -- i already told revali my fastest time by the time i went to sleep last night and the dont share challenge results rule got posted afterwards. so uh my bad.
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Post by Prince Sidon on May 16, 2020 12:50:05 GMT -5
if neither you or revali are immune, what will you do? im not voting for revali. im not going to take a stance that bold publicly. i still want patricia out of here, possibly oven. im working on oaki right now to show him why sticking with patty and oven is a stupid idea. pitch being: look, you and i have cover, people assume we want to kill each other so one of us will be looped in if there's a plot to kill the other. what do u have with oven/patty? well u have two people who were left out of every single merge vote so far. they voted in the minority with link, they were blindsided by the mipha/patty blindside, and they were left out of the planning for the vote last round. whereas i at least knew what was going on. so u can either go with them and get tipped off at the last second every single tc or if u keep me here, u can actually play survivor.
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Post by King Hyrule on May 16, 2020 13:05:54 GMT -5
full disclosure -- i already told revali my fastest time by the time i went to sleep last night and the dont share challenge results rule got posted afterwards. so uh my bad. You're fine, just as long as you don't carry on discussing the challenge. Our fault for not posting about this before
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Prince Sidon
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Post by Prince Sidon on May 16, 2020 15:47:21 GMT -5
debating if i should keep trying the puzzle. or play my advantage. the new rule not to discuss times really screwed with my entire plan this tribal. ive told revali i have the item and am gonna see what he says
so like, even if i win immunity, there's almost no chance that i convince oaki/oven/patty to turn on each other and not just take revali out. which still leaves me with this trio problem.
so i gotta play the guessing game of... did i do better, or did revali? bc if i did, passing him the advantage to play on me makes the most sense. if he did, playing the advantage on him makes the most sense.
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Post by Prince Sidon on May 16, 2020 15:57:10 GMT -5
Okay, so it sounds like while I can't flat out say my time I CAN advise towards or against an item being used on me. And atm I would NOT recomend using it on me, but that may change and I'll tell you if that it is advisable. god DAMMIT revali
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Post by Prince Sidon on May 16, 2020 18:59:45 GMT -5
please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please
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Post by Prince Sidon on May 16, 2020 20:00:06 GMT -5
i'm a god tbh
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Prince Sidon
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Post by Prince Sidon on May 16, 2020 20:58:38 GMT -5
galaxy brain play: don't target oaki, use extra vote to tie vote between oven/patty, force rocks, oaki goes home.
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Prince Sidon
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Post by Prince Sidon on May 17, 2020 22:40:29 GMT -5
okay so
i used the extra vote on oven to have a real heart to heart with him. feels like i melted his little gamebot heart a bit. he came after me saying he figures i played with my heart and voted him, so i spun it like this:
Oven:
Me:
Oven:
Me:
Alright. So step one is making sure no matter what happens with this vote, Oven won't vote me out. I told Revali and Oaki to make it seem like Oven might go last round to flush his idol, and it happened. Now he's complaining that people told him he was going, but I'm able to point to MY PMs to Oven last round where I was dead sure Patricia was going home. Now... I didn't flush his idol, I certainly wasn't the vote on him, and I've cracked his hard oven-like exterior. Things are going well.
Hell, Oven may even be in my final three plans. I know it's not fun for the specs to watch a game where underdogs/goats get dragged to the end, but barring some insane rounds at F7/F6/F5, I'm going to have to play that kind of game because it's the game I've been lined up to play thanks to Oaki and Oven returning. (Cue: Horse, Mipha, and Patty coming back because that's the exact series of returnees that could fuck me the most, and we're living in the Fuck Sidon Timeline.)
Step two is spilling to Revali every item I know of in the game to establish more trust there. I pulled his ass out of the fire last round, so I have some goodwill there, now I just need to solidify it by sharing all my item info, including telling him about my extra vote. I still think I probably am suspected of having the Courage idol, but I think I've done a good job of downplaying it and I've still followed my number one rule: never tell anyone you have an idol.
Step three is solidifying my final two deal with Oaki. I dug deep for some heartwarming mumbo jumbo and we've both bonded over being a "returning veteran who haven't been around in a long time". Oaki called my game and his game "nonmeta" in the current environment, and I don't really know what the fuck that means, but sure, I'll lean into it. I don't actually know that Oaki is in my final tribal plans. Figuring that out.
The absolute worst thing for my game right now would be Patricia returning. I did vote with her, so I'd have that, but then I'd have to tell her I was voting with her, and that leaks out, gets back to Oven/Revali/Oaki, undoes all the progress I've made with them so far. The best returnees for me right now would be like... Magda, Karson, Roscoe, Riju, Robbie, Pelison, or Hunnie. Okay. That gives me a 8:3 chance of having someone back that wouldn't destroy my game! I don't like those odds. Because fuck this game.
Being publicly on the underdog tribe helps me immensely because it gives me some cover. I legitimately think I'm more connected than Revali. Hell, maybe Revali goes to the end with me? After all, he got targeted for the blindside round one, never really recovered socially, and only survived through the strength of his immunity wins. And even then... when he was dead to rights, I'm the one that had to save him with my challenge performance.
Like, I'd be comfortable going to FTC with any of the players on my tribe at the moment. Oaki is the iffiest, because he has played a bombastic and wild game. I think the "but I voted you out..." argument could work, but Oaki is a flashy player, and I don't like sitting next to those at the end.
The largest threats to win right now are, unfortunately, probably exactly my top alliance -- Kohga, Kass, and Urbosa. Kass at the top, Urbosa second, Kohga right after him. Kass reminds me so much of someone I've played with before and I can't put my finger on it. Basically BFFs with everyone, can't lie to anyone, won't stab anyone. Super emotionally charged player.
I guess I forgot Epona. I think she's overestimated as a threat, but I think specifically against me, I cannot beat her with my game right now. The biggest moves I've made were blindsiding Oaki and flipping on Horse, and Epona was there with me lock-and-step for both. And since she's the one that had the existing Oven connection on Wisdom... and she's the one who had the most people to talk to during the round Horse went home... I don't think I'm getting my fair share of credit for those moves if I'm with Epona at the end.
So knowing that... there are eight left (right now). I don't want to be next to Epona, Kass, or Urbosa. That leaves me four options: Oaki, Oven, Revali, and Kohga.
I think with Oaki and Oven at the end with me, I have a case of "I voted both of these people out. They returned. And despite voting them out the first time, I was able to get them not to target me and work with me to the end." Either Kohga or Revali being there makes my case more complicated than that, but I don't HATE my chances against them? Kohga is a harder argument to win than Revali, I think.
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